Kim Cofino & Jeff Utecht Keynote
Moving a Community Forward
May 22, 2009
From an international school perspective, Jeff and Kim discuss the various members of a school community and practical strategies for how to move forward with community buy-in and support. From administrators, to parents, to students, to teachers, we need to ensure that we support, engage, and inform all school stakeholders about the changes we need to implement in our schools.
Moderator: hey jeff
Moderator: vance here
Moderator: I'd like to pop out and come back as my own name
Jeff Lebow: Hello Vance - Hour 73 ahoy!
Moderator: only one to go
Moderator: ok, I'm out and coming back again, I'll request mod priviledges when I return
Moderator (Session Leader): ok
Vance Stevens: can you bestow upon me the honors?
Jeff Lebow: You're speaking to session leader, yes?
Jeff Lebow: ah, I was going to dub you Sir Vance
Moderator (Vance Stevens): arises
Jeff Lebow: we wrapped post show
Jeff Lebow: now simulcasting this
mrsdurff: Vance woke up!
mrsdurff: i prefer everyone twitter now
Moderator (Vance Stevens): woke up sort of
Mary Di Monaco: Hi everybody
mrsdurff: as Nike says, Just Do It!
mrsdurff: hi mary
mrsdurff: i don't have one
ehelfant: Hi Jeff and Kim!
mrsdurff: hi ehelfant
ehelfant: hi mrsdurff! we meet again today!
Jeff Lebow: it is
Jeff Lebow: 17 on the stream
Jeff Lebow: reflection on the past 72 hours
Jared Nichol: I stumbled upon this link from Twitter! Lurking!
Jeff Lebow: what are you playing
mrsdurff: we are observing silence in honor of Vance
mrsdurff: 3 mins
Jared Nichol: from Cold Lake, Alberta- tech teacher!
Jeff Lebow: pro
Jared Nichol: MB PRO
mrsdurff: Jared RT
Bryan Hughes: Macbook Pro
Jared Nichol: I dropped my Thursday
Jared Nichol: it still ticked
Jeff Lebow: in that case, the free one
Bryan Hughes: Geek cred
Jared Nichol: my new one got a serious dent- they're quite sturdy
Jared Nichol: por
Jared Nichol: pro
mrsdurff: like i said, retweet please
Jared Nichol: 15" $$$ cha ching
Moderator (Vance Stevens): let me
mrsdurff: no one wants to miss this
Mary Di Monaco: have just retweeted
Jason Spivey: Good morning!
Mary Di Monaco: good evening here in Argentina, 10 pm
Jason Spivey: 10:01 in Seoul...
Mary Di Monaco: same time as in Argentina, Jason
Nina Liakos: Awake again vance?
Donelle: in Rocklin, CA
Nina Liakos: Hi everybody
Mary Di Monaco: hi again, Nina
Nina Liakos: Last gasp of wiaoc09
Nina Liakos: What a ride!
Moderator (Vance Stevens): am doing
Moderator (Vance Stevens): I spaced on Thinking Stick
Moderator (Vance Stevens):
mrsdurff: The Dream Team ... how I wish....
Jared Nichol: I really liked this idea. We thought this might work with staff. Coffee = attendance
Bron Stuckey: teachers like food and refreshments
Donelle: great idea. love that!
mrsdurff: I like coffee period
Nina Liakos: The problem is for working parents
mrsdurff: I tried it and no one came
Nina Liakos: I could never attend such a thing
Nina Liakos: @lisa
mrsdurff: well, i had good food and coffee for a week
ehelfant: does an admin attend these? (sorry if you said- i have kid distraction here)
Nina Liakos: That was a plus!
Donelle: would love to see the calendar of topics
ehelfant: you recomment elementary parents get a facebook account
Jared Nichol: do they volunteer in classes during the day too?
Bryan Hughes: The team I work with has often talked about how getting parents more involved in some of our initiatives might help force the hand of admin
Donelle: i set up a ning for our parents at our school
Mary Di Monaco: great idea, Donelle
ehelfant: do you recommend an age that facebook is appropriate? our MS says no, our US is all over it
Moderator (Session Leader): http://inside.isb.ac.th/
Donelle: @ehelfant i know that for ning it is 13 and up.
jackiegerstein: Hi, Bryan - just followed you back on Twitter - love the real time communications/connections!
doug symington: @ehelfant: believe 13+ yrs the license on most spaces
Donelle: hi keri-lee
ehelfant: 13 is 7th grade but our counselor says its inappropriate
Keri-Lee Beasley: Hey! Fancy meeting you here!
ehelfant: yet they all have accounts
Jason Spivey: Are the teachers "forced" to blog or have they volunteered?
Donelle: @ehelfant - u can make it a closed environment
jackiegerstein: Getting tired of the 13 year old law - my upper elementary gifted students tell me they lie to get onto the sites
mrsdurff: we like you talking
jackiegerstein: Keep talking
Donelle: we're good at multitasking
mrsdurff: we're trying to confuse vance
ehelfant: do parents comment back and engage
Jason Spivey: That is a great idea
ehelfant: i love that you do this with elementary
Donelle: @ehelfant - parents really took to it so far
Jared Nichol: that's great way in that 'push-pull' relationship
ehelfant: must get parents ready for a 1:1 program
Jared Nichol: to get teachers on board
Keri-Lee Beasley: None had a facebook account? Seriously?
Jason Spivey: LOL
Nina Liakos: Are tgese Americans mostly? Or an international mix?
Nina Liakos: *these
Donelle: want to borrow this agenda... which of the blogs is this one on?
doug symington: relevance of curriculum. Imagine looking for something you're interested in knowing more about--love it
Moderator (Vance Stevens): judgng from Bar camp videos, largely asian
Jason Spivey: Do your parents ask about SAT scores and other standraized testing schools? How do you deal with these type of questions?
Jason Spivey: school= tools
Jared Nichol: not happening for our implementation next year. too bad
Moderator (Vance Stevens): that's a really good point
Jason Spivey: Is a great point
Jason Spivey: Thanks
Moderator (Vance Stevens): if you have that link, pop it here
Jared Nichol: @vance, do you have a link?
Donelle: that's a great one
mrsdurff: still more listeners on simulcast than in elluminate
Moderator (Vance Stevens): I've lost audio on both computers
Nina Liakos: Wonder why
Moderator (Session Leader): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e50YBu14j3U
Bron Stuckey: I am not hearing anything
Mary Di Monaco: sound is back
Bron Stuckey: The school should get involved in Quest Atlantis - expecially the elementary school
Moderator (Vance Stevens): you're right Bron and you have three archived recordings from this conference about that
Bryan Hughes: How much of this is mandated by admin/the school? It's inspiring to hear how many teachers at ISB are involved in these projects. I would meet with a lot of resistance trying to recruit teachers for a project like Students Teching Students.
kim caise: isn't that a violation of copyright?
Keri-Lee Beasley: @Bryan Hughes, that's such a shame
kim caise: teachers were refused permission here in texas when trying to do something similar. publisher wouldn't give permisison.
Keri-Lee Beasley: Do you think you are now reaching a critical mass with technology use now?
Bryan Hughes: How is that articulated? (Re: expectation to use technology in authentic ways) Is it written in a document?
kim caise: the audiobooks were going to be used in the classroom only
kim caise: teachers were still told no
jackiegerstein: This is my new favorite tech PR vid What is Next Generation Learning? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dBT9mmizL8 (took me some time to find i)
Donelle: love that.
Donelle: can u put that link in here? didn't catch that
Moderator (Session Leader): http://inside.isb.ac.th/elementary/
Keri-Lee Beasley: Wow, that sounds like a great project!
plnaugle: Congratulations on such an ambioius project.
mrsdurff: wow Dream Team pulling in 51 listeners in two venues
Keri-Lee Beasley: I think we are at UWCSEA, so we would love to help out
Moderator (Session Leader): yay!
Jared Nichol: Many schools don't have the support of people full time like in your building. This is where many projects fall down
Jared Nichol: I've found this to be true in my multimedia classes
doug symington: public voice does make a difference when learners produce
Jared Nichol: our rubric includes how many hits on youtube- 4/4 means the video has gone viral!
Donelle: wish my families were as open to youtube
Keri-Lee Beasley: I wish the school was a bit more open to this. They want control, and feel youtube means they don't have control.
Moderator (Vance Stevens): rectifying that mindset is what Kim and Jeff have managed to do
Moderator (Vance Stevens): the over riding question is how can we move such thinking in others 180 degrees
Moderator (Vance Stevens): how can we open their eyes
Donelle: i think they've done it with those coffee mornings, and talking about it in that environment with parents
plnaugle: We need to go one step at a time, one teacher at a time until we reach our goal.
Moderator (Vance Stevens): our eyes are open (or you wouldn't likely be here)
Moderator (Vance Stevens): there are some great archives from this conference along these lines
Jason Spivey: Some students just walked in and said that the presentation was "cool"!
E Moccio: I think I am going FaceBook group way next year with my students. I was doing Ning.
doug symington: social media is soon (if not already) bigger than individual institutions--change or die
Jason Spivey: Thanks guys for sharing your ideas. Will see you around. Great work as always!
Jared Nichol: could this have been done to this level without two fulltime people supoprting teachers/parents/community?
Donelle: possibly. you need people with vision
Keri-Lee Beasley: Maybe not, but it's great to see what is possible if you do have 2 fulltime people!
plnaugle: Our district just set a policy that all videos can only be posted on TeacherTube.
Donelle: the coffee mornings sound like a great lead in with families
Jared Nichol: @plnaugle did they consult teachers on that decision?
Jared Nichol: I agree
Moderator (Vance Stevens): easier to ask forgiveness than permission, good
plnaugle: @Jared Nichol No they did not.
Mary Di Monaco: very persuasive
Moderator (Vance Stevens): afraid of losing control? they've already lost it, again good
doug symington: too true re no control with social media--like water, it will flow
Moderator (Vance Stevens): this is the edupunk way, asking permission is a speed bump
Donelle: great team
Keri-Lee Beasley: good cop, bad cop?
Jared Nichol: @plnaugle that occurs in my district too
plnaugle: Most school districts love positive PR, so teachers need to join a project or do a project and get district's name out there in a positive light.
mrsdurff: welcome to the Tipping Point with the Dream Team from Bangkok, Thailand
Keri-Lee Beasley: Good to know that you two have frustrations too.
mrsdurff: don't tell us!
Moderator (Vance Stevens): it is good, because that's reality
Moderator (Vance Stevens): and how to deal with frustration and move forward is the key to success for all of us
E Moccio: I think if I said the word LAN party to my staff... they would think I was from another planet!
plnaugle: Parties are a good way to go.
Donelle: don't you just want to go to one of those parties?
Bryan Hughes: We've had great success holding LAN parties in our district, inspired by Jeff and Kim. They both joined us at our first in December, and wrapped up in May with 100 teachers attending.
jerry swiatek: I think if I mentioned anything outside of school hours to my staff, they would think I was from another planet
mrsdurff: YEAH NZCHRISSY!
plnaugle: Can we Skype into the next one?
Moderator (Vance Stevens): we should hold them regularly
Moderator (Vance Stevens): maybe webheads could move from SUnday noon chats at TI
Moderator (Vance Stevens): into sunday noon LAN parties
Moderator (Vance Stevens): that's noon GMT btw
plnaugle: It's five o'clock somewhere.
ehelfant: Do your teachers like Elgg? Why Elgg over Ning?
plnaugle: Need more info on
plnaugle: Need more info on Elgg.
Donelle: i'm using ning with parents & teachers this year & plan to use elgg with students next year
Keri-Lee Beasley: Reluctantly, I have to go. Thank you both for your inspiring talk (as usual). Great learning with you.
ehelfant: thats the latest version of Elgg? might bug you about the plugins you added
Moderator (Vance Stevens): you can catch the rest of this on podcast
ehelfant: making this stuff sustainable and not personailty driven is tough
Nick Noakes: sustainable 'leadership' in communities of practice is a big issue ,. partciularly distributed ones
Donelle: @plnaugle: check out Jim Klein's page for more info. on Elgg: http://community.saugususd.org/jklein/page/Social+Networking
plnaugle: Do people show up on Mondays and Thursdays?
Nick Noakes: transition people to core and out again to take up these leadership roles ... .. sort of informal succession planning
plnaugle: @Donelle Thank you.
Donelle: how much time do u offer for the wired weds.
E Moccio: Great stuff. Sorry, but have to go! I will listen to the rest on the podcast.
plnaugle: Can I borrow the name Wired Wednesdays for my faculty next school year?
kim caise: we used to do tech tuesdays
kim caise: weekly tech 'happy
kim caise: 'happy hours'
Donelle: love that, kim
Nick Noakes: have folks here looked at the 2020 forecast: creating the future of learning? http://www.futureofed.org/
plnaugle: My tech time is definitely "happy hour".
kim caise: 'happy hour' seemed to lighten the mood and make the sessions more 'approachable'
plnaugle: @Nick Noakes Thanks for the link.
Donelle: speed what?
ehelfant: I like the speed geeking concept
plnaugle: @Kim C I spent your post "Take Your Faculty SpeedGeeking" to our director of technology.
Moderator (Session Leader): can u put a link here?
plnaugle: sent not spent.
Moderator (Vance Stevens): I used to have a 'homegrown' hour each week in my last tech coordinator position
Moderator (Vance Stevens): similar
Moderator (Vance Stevens): I like the term speedgeeking
jackiegerstein: This is kind of like speed geeking - am loving it
Moderator (Session Leader): speed geeking: http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2009/04/05/take-your-faculty-speedgeeking/
mrsdurff: speed geeking?
Donelle: @jackiegerstein i was just thinking that too. cool.
Bron Stuckey: Like the 60 second story - Steve Denning
Bryan Hughes: Are these online courses? Open to others outside ISB?
mrsdurff: sounds like snbeach's speed dating
Moderator (Session Leader): coetail.asia
Nick Noakes: who has the bell for us to change roles .. we ought to try it online sometime ... 5 mins and ding
Moderator (Session Leader): http://coetail.asia
Moderator (Vance Stevens): like Pecha Kucha
mrsdurff: there is an online timer surely
ehelfant: thats a great idea
Nick Noakes: noticed google reader now has bundles ... so you can put all student blogs for a class into one rss feed
mrsdurff: you organise and we will come nick
Donelle: that link didn't work for me...?
Moderator (Session Leader): http://www.coes
Moderator (Session Leader): sorry, one more try
Moderator (Session Leader): http://www.coetail.asia
Donelle: What then will u use to support them with their IETP goal?
Donelle: Do they take courses?
Bron Stuckey: will these be related to ISTE nets
Donelle: U two do a ton!
Moderator (Vance Stevens): plow on, you're the last act
Moderator (Vance Stevens): I'll get more coffee
mrsdurff: get me some
plnaugle: @mrsdurff They're getting coffee.
Jared Nichol: take as much time as you want!
Nick Noakes: tiieing the communities sounds like a great idea
Moderator (Session Leader): http://isb21.wikispaces.com
doug symington: great presentation, thx for sharing your experiences and plans for the future
Nick Noakes: linking school admins in a district?
Nick Noakes: or ISBs admins globally?
Moderator (Vance Stevens): that's so cool you've got cred with them
ehelfant: Thanks tons for sharing.. ISB lucky to have you two!
ehelfant: have to put kids to bed
Nina Liakos: have to put self to bed... up 19 straight hours...
Jared Nichol: push for admin is important and powerful especially if it comes from parents.
Nick Noakes: yay! ty both
Barb Sakamoto: Wonderful! Thanks!
Donelle: That was awesome! thank you
jackiegerstein: Love the two person speedgeek session you just did
jerry swiatek: great stuff!!! Lots to work on for next school year!
mrsdurff: Click the applaud thing
Jared Nichol: well done!
plnaugle: Thank you Kim and Jeff. We two are incredible.
Nina Liakos: speedgeeks...i like that
Bron Stuckey: Bravo - all kudos to you
Bron Stuckey: Can I ask a question?
sroseman: awesome speed geeking ..
Bryan Hughes: Thanks to both of you - a lot of great stuff packed in this presentation.
Donelle: So very many good ideas!
Jared Nichol: each of these segments could be a full day session, thanks for all the great stuff!
Bron Stuckey: Is there any virtual world experience in your suite of activities?
Bron Stuckey: for elementary students - grade 5?
Nina Liakos: Thanks, Kim and Jeff
Nina Liakos: the fact that it happens at all is a miracle
kim caise: this was a fantastic conference vance
Nina Liakos: May 24 here
kim caise: thank you to everyone who presented and assisted with the coordination
Bron Stuckey: May 25th here
Nina Liakos: Thanks to vance for catherding
Nick Noakes: Bron posted a question Vance
Nina Liakos: GREAT convergence
kim caise: thank you jeff and kim
Moderator (Session Leader): thank you!
jerry swiatek: Vance can you post the link to all of the archives of this conference?
jackiegerstein: Bron has such a distinctive voice
Moderator (Vance Stevens): we have such a link, it will be posted
Nina Liakos: Please excuse me
Nina Liakos: I have to sleep!
Moderator (Vance Stevens): it might be at http://webheadsinaction.org first
carolteach4: tuned in late to this - will look forward to hearing the recorded stream- glad you guys helped me figure out how to join in the unconvergence-
Nina Liakos: I enjoyed being here today with all of you
plnaugle: Vance. thank you for all your hard work with putting WIAOC together. I was able to attend several sessons and learned so much at each one. Kudos to you and your team. Good night.
Moderator (Vance Stevens): quest atlantis is free to school participants?
Bron Stuckey: yes
Bron Stuckey: free to all
Moderator (Vance Stevens): kudos to the team it was a team effort
mrsdurff: WiAOC will be archived on http://webheadsinaction.org/ in a few days - right Vance?
Moderator (Vance Stevens): in a few minutes perhaps, JL confirm?
Bron Stuckey: take a look at Quest Atlantis
Moderator (Vance Stevens): actually I can post it at the wiki
Moderator (Vance Stevens): I had it there earlier
Moderator (Vance Stevens): I'll put it on the schedule
jackiegerstein: I use Quest Atlantis with my upper elementary students - have major problems with bandwidth - QA does not take the "power"
mrsdurff: there are things at http://webheadsinaction.org/ already
Moderator (Vance Stevens): excellent
Bron Stuckey: Jeff Dungan in Shanghai is using Quest Atlantis right now with 5th graders
sroseman: Thanks all
jackiegerstein: durff - If I ever run a tech conference, I will hire you as the major PR person
Jeff Lebow: Ustream Archives at: http://www.ustream.tv/webheads/videos
sroseman: Attended 3 sessions ..all excellent
mrsdurff: thanks jackie
jackiegerstein: with lots of coffee - of course
sroseman: Collaboration communities, google tools and this keynote
Jeff Lebow: Some are already posted at http://webheadsinaction.org/
Moderator (Session Leader): hello
Moderator (Session Leader): hmm seems audio is going in an out
Jeff Lebow: raw audio at: http://worldbridges.info/wiaoc09
Moderator (Session Leader): same for you guys?
kim caise: i was in the SL session with jokay at 3am my time
mrsdurff: that's the middle of the night!
kim caise: it was great. she does a fantastic job
jackiegerstein: Jokay's middle names are Second Life
kim caise: isnt that the truth, jackie?
kim caise: i have been in her other sessions at 3 or 4am and they are always superb
mrsdurff: vance gets twitter? WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nick Noakes: do we need a students conference llike this ...
kim caise: that's a great idea @nick
Nick Noakes: based on this type of work
Jeff Lebow: Three cheers for Vance!!!
Nick Noakes: wtg Vance and jefff
Moderator (Vance Stevens): five cheers for Jeff
Moderator (Session Leader): we're fine for a few if there are more questions
jackiegerstein: So there will be Webhead conferences every weekend now?
Moderator (Session Leader): ask away!
mrsdurff: hip[, hip horray!!
mrsdurff: bye all!
jackiegerstein: Loved the weekend!
Bron Stuckey: My recording from 19.00 GMT 24th does not show on the archives. It was recorded
Nick Noakes: speedwehbheading
mrsdurff: it is all over
jackiegerstein: speedgeeking webheads - that works!
Nick Noakes: take an rl hol
jackiegerstein: This was great - major accolades!
Bron Stuckey: well done Vance et al!!!!
Nick Noakes: whizbanging great note
jackiegerstein: Wish I could yell out like in SL
mrsdurff: no it was you
doug symington: lot of fun and thanks to all--look fwd to seeing you all again soon
mrsdurff: all you
Nick Noakes: YAAAAYYYYY!
Barbara Lindsey: Fabulous
Jeff Lebow: This session's UStream recording at: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1557309